@article{McNiff_2019, title={An Interview with Raphael Koenig and Benny Shaffer: Expanding Normality at the Edges of the Art World in China and Japan}, url={https://caet.inspirees.com/caetojsjournals/index.php/caet/article/view/170}, journal={Creative Arts in Education and Therapy (CAET)}, author={McNiff, Shaun}, year={2019}, month={Aug.}, pages={Pages 14 - 24} }